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I’m not buying the 5800XM NAM and neither should you

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Well, maybe that’s a bit strong. Let me be a bit clearer. You shouldn’t buy it if you already own the Euro version and/or are waiting for the N97.

Nokia is having a one day sale for 10% off the preorder of the 5800XM NAM or the E63. You can also snag yourself an additional 5% off your entire order if you include an accessory with your order (though good luck sifting through the accessories that are actually in stock and available through their online site). As Boy Genius Reports, “throw in another handset or even an accessory such as a Bluetooth headset and youโ€™re looking at $339.15 – not bad at all“, and I agree. I’m not upset at this deal at all. I’m upset at Nokia’s piss poor history of not being able to release US devices at the same time as the Euro counterparts and they’ve been banking on it every time. Read on to understand what I’m talking about.

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February 15, 2009 at 7:03 am

5800 XpressMusic Mini Review Part 1: Calling

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Given how much my opinion of the 5800XM has fluctuated so much since I first received it, I think the only effective way I’ll be able to review it is in parts, similar to how the Guru is reviewing it. I would, however, like to review some of the lesser noticed features that people may be interested in rather than the main features that have been reviewed to death as it is already.

Click ahead to read how well I feel the 5800XM performs as a phone first.

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Written by Jonathan

January 9, 2009 at 7:37 am

Updating the 5800XM (or any S60 phone) with Phoenix

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Before I did too deeply into any review of the 5800XM I received several weeks ago now, I think it’s necessary for anyone who has the means to update their device to the next firmware, whether it’s officially available or not. The update changes enough things that I feel it’s worth it to take the risk, and if you happen to be running an APAC firmware, the update allows you to switch product codes to get a much nicer looking set of fonts.

Some things to keep in mind before continuing…

  • As with most firmware updates, flashing will erase all of your information. Be sure to backup anything important.
  • Using this method to flash could potentially damage your device. I assume no liability should you damage or brick your phone.
  • Changing your product code will void your devices manufacturer warranty. It is always possible to use this same method to revert back to the original product code, though again, I assume no liability if your warranty is void from this update process.

If the desire for a stable firmware and nicer looking fonts is more important than these things for you, click through for the walkthrough.

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Written by Jonathan

January 5, 2009 at 12:06 pm

The Final Challenge and some more updates

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Where have I been?!

Well, I can tell you. To make a long story short, a returning customer of mine from Circuit City decided he would rather hire me for his business rather than try to distribute my resume and help me out. I’ve been working a steady 9-5 with him for the past month, including a weeklong business trip to Chicago and tons of different types of work I’ve never had an opportunity to do before. I’m very excited and grateful for this opportunity and I can’t wait to see what else develops from it. Thanks again to all of the people who supported me and showed their concern during my difficult time. I hope everyone had a merry Christmas, a happy New Year, and an excellent time observing any other holiday I missed. ๐Ÿ™‚

Several weeks ago I received my final challenge on this piece of parchment. Although I would have liked more time, I have been notified that the N96 will have to go back overseas after this weekend. Read ahead for the final challenge and the details on how to become one of the 5 people to trial the device if I win!

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January 2, 2009 at 8:19 am

Why no scratchpad on 5th Edition?

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After having used several different drawing and notes applications on the N810 that were designed specifically for free-form stylus input, such functionality is something I had come to expect out of resistive touch screen devices that make use of a stylus. You can only imagine then how disappointed I was to read that the 5800XM does not have any application like this whatsoever (from All About Symbian’s 3rd part of their 3 part 5800XM review) and the same appears to go for all of 5th Edition.

I don’t think having a device that relies so heavily on touch input is complete without an application like this available for installation, if not embedded in the native firmware. If you’re not familiar, it operates much like Microsoft Paint except on your touch-enabled portable device (see the screenshot below).

Click on this link to get to the S60 Wish for this application if you’d like to use something like this on your 5800XM or other 5th Edition device in the future (the link should be live after the wish passes moderation). I’ve also continued this discussion in a thread on HoFo to gain more momentum and hopefully have at least a beta available within the next couple weeks.

Why buy an unlocked device in 2009?

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I’ve been chewing this question over in my head for a couple days now and a couple of recent articles really made things much more clear to me. I apologize in advance for the long read, but I think it will be worth your time if you care to give it.

How it was.

There was a time not too many years ago when owning an unlocked S60 device really meant something. They were usually much more expensive, freed users of any of the carrier restrictions placed on such devices due to branded firmware, and had a larger feature set than what was offered by carriers as well. I remember when I bought my 6630 with a 1.3mp camera when everyone else around me was first getting introduced to cameraphones altogether. When 1.3 became the standard, I was upgrading the 2mp camera on my N70 to the 3.2mp camera on the N80 and taking advantage of wifi on a phone, a thought that was unheard of by any carrier at the time. When the world finally got around to using 2mp as the standard and started rolling out provider-based GPS solutions, I was dropping a silly amount of money on my first N95 with a real GPS chipset and a whopping 5mp sensor, along with all of the other features I had grown used to over the years.

Despite the cost for these devices, there was an obvious advantage to them that was worth a conversation with someone who was looking for something that was more than what AT&T or Verizon could offer them. Since I started using S60, I’ve been so enthusiastic about it that I influenced more than a dozen friends, family members, and strangers to buy an unlocked Nokia rather than settle for the mediocre device offerings from carriers that came locked and ready to charge you for every bit of media you consume.

I spent a lot of money over the years to stay at the bleeding edge of this technology, but it was worth it.

Fast forward to today. Where are we?

-The iPhone undoubtedly has completely changed the market and how people perceive mobile devices. It appeals to people who struggled with Windows Mobile for its incredible ease of use, fashionistas who want a gorgeous piece of equipment in their pocket, mid-to-heavy power users who want an impressive device in their pocket, and it has become the new benchmark for a tier of device above your everyday cell phone without the complications of your typical smartphone offerings (usually Windows Mobile, Blackberry, and a bit of Palm still floating around).

-The HTC Touch Pro, a worthy iPhone competitor, will be offered by Sprint, AT&T, and Verizon for the 2008 holiday season.

-Verizon is launching the Blackberry Storm, yet another iPhone competitor, within the next couple weeks (allegedly by Black Friday).

-AT&T has several more devices planned for the holiday launch, including the Blackberry Bold, Samsung Eternity, Incite, Epix, and a few other devices geared towards enhanced messaging.

-In addition to the Touch Pro and the Blackberry Storm, Verizon is also launching the Samsung Omnia with 5mp camera (with many, many features), GPS, and everything else you’d want from a high end Windows Mobile device. It is also due out for this holiday season.

-T-Mobile just launched their first real iPhone contender in both hardware and software, the HTC G1 running Andoid.

Bare in mind, all of these carrier device offerings are new. They are an addition to all of the other devices that have already been rapidly catching up to what’s supposed to be the next generation of high end devices. Verizon had been all over the touch screen bandwagon for a while now with the likes of the HTC Touch, LG Voyager, Dare, Samsung Glyde, and the newly released Motorola Krave.

I’ve gotten to the point where switching to a different device and platform wouldn’t be much of a sacrifice at all if it were easy enough to learn, so what’s to stop anyone else from feeling the exact same? I’ve been with S60 for so long that it feels like second nature, but in a world with iPhones and iPhone-wannabes that are damn near immediately intuitive as soon as you pick it up and are starting to have the exact same feature sets as the once-coveted unlocked, imported smartphone, what does Nokia and/or S60 have that people are really going to want? And what’s going to make it worth the extra money for buying it without a contract?

Some would argue that it’s the operating system, the third party software, and the ease of use makes still makes it worthwhile. I would agree, but your average consumer wouldn’t. Part of the brilliance of S60 was a community of users with active development of the platform adding functionality on an almost daily basis. While that’s still very strong, there’s a much stronger presence available elsewhere now. Going back to the iPhone, Apple (and the community responsible for jailbreaking) took that same idea and unified all of the apps into a single source for convenient installation right on the device iteself, much like you’d see from a Linux distro. Speaking of which, Android has now done the exact same thing, and Blackberry is about to join the club as well. Nokia’s version is a patheric application called “Download!”, available on devices years before the iPhone, but it was hardly used then either. Download! brought a very small fraction of the most popular S60 applications for users to install right on their device with a clunky interface that doesn’t even compare to what’s available now.

The point? In both hardware and software, there are very few unlocked devices (current and available soon) that offer more than what’s already available from a carrier.

Why would somebody buy an N85 for $400+ dollars when a Samsung Omnia can be had for $100 less with a contract? It’s not worth it anymore.

I’m very content with my decision to buy the 5800 XpressMusic when the US version is available. I’m at a point in my life where having the absolute latest and greatest phone with all of the high end features is much less important to me than having a device I enjoy using that still matches what I need and what I need it to do on a daily basis. The difference now is that I also have no choice. Nokia doesn’t have a flagship that blows everything else out of the water like they used to year after year.

Nokia has sat at the top of their hill for a very, very long time, gradually milking out new phones with a minor upgrade here, a US version there, with the capability to be the dominant presence in all of its markets. With all of the recent changes, it’s not difficult to see how easily other manufacturers have been able to slowly eat away at their numbers.

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What does the future hold?

Nokia has three options if they ever intend to get back into the US market.

1) Get agreements with carriers.

2) Sell unlocked phones at competitive prices.

3) Start making phones worth the extra money and market the hell out of them.

Nokia is never going to have to worry about their doors closing. The lion’s share of their market is still heavily dominated by their lower-end handsets and most of these thoughts are intended for the US audience only. If Nokia intends to stay as successful as they have been for the past several years, then it’s time they start worrying. They have several new services that, if done properly, could retake control of the entire market; they just need to do it right.

I used to think about a day when things would change in the US. I thought that everyone would eventually catch on to the idea of unlocked phones, start to phase out the carrier as their source for new devices, and we’d gradually see an uprising of interest in mobile technology beyond just calling and sending SMS. Well, now we have, except the company that has done it was the newcomer to the market, and they did it with an even stronger relationship to mobile providers than ever before. Everyone asks “Who are you with?” instead of “Who makes that phone?” more than ever and we’re even further away from that changing anytime soon.

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As a fan of technology in general, I’m very excited to see how much everything is about to change even after they already have so much. Though I am still very happy with Nokia’s offerings, I wouldn’t have any reservations about purchasing a device that offered more for less, and I’m sure the majority of everyone else in the US feels the same way. 2009 holds a lot of new devices from a lot of manufacturers. The last thing Nokia needs to be doing is releasing rehashes of their previous years devices with new reflective black casings.

After all, that banner up there is only a jpeg and changing the URL for my blog would be very inexpensive. ๐Ÿ˜‰

The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Link Roundup and Afterthoughts

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If you’re as excited as I was about Nokia’s big announcement today, then the odds are you’ve probably poured over all of the pictures and watched all of the videos several times now. No? Well, it’s probably just me then. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking and reading today trying to decide if this announcement has been a success or a flop and I think I’ve finally come to my conclusion: it’s neither.

It’s exactly what I was guessing it to be since I had first heard about it. It’s a touchscreen device running S60. It was never meant to be the next flagship, it was never supposed to be the best touch screen device on the market, it was simply designed to be traditional S60 with a touch interface. To expect anything more than exactly that is just foolish, especially considering the price point.

Now that said, there are still several little things that are keeping the device exciting for me aside from the touch addition from what I’ve read from all of the various sources today.

-Very LOUD speaker for music playback.


-The touchscreen is similar to that of the Internet Tablets, which is the best resistive touch screen I’ve ever used.


-Each color variation has a tinted reflective coating on the front lining (not just the obvious striped along the outside) and corresponding colored plectrum (guitar pick).


-As commented by Rita, the phone will ship with the stand pictured in the promo shots as well as a carrying case.


-The best part of all, it’s still S60. It’ll still have all of the options to use your phone how YOU want to use your phone.

Given those little things, it’s certainly going to be worth the >$400 when the US version rolls out early next year. I’ll still be picking one up, at least.

Here’s a roundup of everything that was covered today, in no particular order.

Symbian Guru – Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Finally Real

All About Symbian – Nokia 5800 – touch-enabled, mid-range, music-focused S60 phone

Boy Genius Report – Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Finally Announced

Engadget Mobile –The Nokia 5800 XpressMusic and Nokia’s 5800 XpressMusic phone intimately detailed on video

Phone Scoop – Nokia 5800 with S60 Touch Hands-On

Gizmodo – Nokia 5800 Xpress Music: Hands-on With Nokia’s First S60 Touch Phone

There are also several threads on Howard Forums that you can check out as well.

*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia 5800 XpressMusic (Tube)

5800 New pics!!!

Tube – Nokia’s Response to Apple’s iPhone